  {"id":27871,"date":"2025-08-18T15:07:17","date_gmt":"2025-08-18T15:07:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/?p=27871"},"modified":"2026-03-10T14:46:29","modified_gmt":"2026-03-10T14:46:29","slug":"what-we-all-can-agree-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/2025\/08\/what-we-all-can-agree-on\/","title":{"rendered":"What We All Can Agree On"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Story by Erin Peterson \/ Illustrations by Cornelia Li<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In the four years since Beau Larsen became director of forensics at Macalester, the program\u2019s five teams\u2014mock trial, ethics\/bioethics, policy debate, moot court, and Model United Nations\u2014have earned plenty of national attention.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Macalester individuals and teams have landed top finishes at the Cross Examination Debate Association Nationals and celebrated an ethics bowl national championship win with coaching support from Casey Moerer \u201923. They\u2019ve qualified for the American Mock Trial Association\u2019s National Championship in 2023 and 2024 with guidance from Niloy Ray \u201999.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Larsen has also relaunched the policy debate program, a century-old program that dissolved during the 2010s\u2014and it has roared back to national relevance. During their tenure, Larsen has coached a team to the quarterfinals of the National Debate Tournament (NDT), the most prestigious competition in the field.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It\u2019s the kind of wide-ranging success that places Larsen firmly in the company of previous beloved forensics leaders including Dick Lesicko \u201975, Scott Nobles, and Roger Mosvick \u201852. And a new generation of celebrated student competitors is earning recognition alongside Mac\u2019s most notable forensics alumni, including Vice President Walter Mondale \u201950 and United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan \u201961.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, Larsen and the eighty students who participate in forensics each year remain deeply committed to the approaches that have long fueled Macalester\u2019s success. \u201cIn forensics, students have space to test ideas, build intellectual rigor, and refine the skill they need no matter what their major is\u2014communication,\u201d says Larsen. \u201cMy students learn across the course of a season what it means to dedicate yourself to something fully and submerge yourself in hard work as part of the process.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Larsen is also positioning students for future success and leadership opportunities. In an era of polarization, Larsen sees forensics as a way for students to practice the skills of respectful and thoughtful disagreement both on campus and beyond it. \u201cWe want to push one another to not settle for the easy answers, and instead to think deeply together and dialogue across difference as an antidote,\u201d they say.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Forensics students at Mac are experts at dissecting arguments, asking key questions, exposing contradictions, and finding the heart of a disagreement. But as fiercely competitive as they are, they share a&nbsp; powerful sense of common purpose. That\u2019s why we asked alumni, students, and coaches to share some of the values instilled by forensics that we can all agree on.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A crash course in forensics at Macalester<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>While many college forensics programs focus on just one or two events, Macalester\u2019s \u201cbig tent\u201d approach includes five distinct competitive formats\u2014a significant advantage for students, says forensics director Beau Larsen. \u201cIt means that there are many different types of public speaking and argumentation \u2018laboratories\u2019 for students to choose from\u2014and it gives them a chance to shine in the events they choose.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here\u2019s a guide to all of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Mock trial:<\/strong> Teams of up to ten students compete in tournaments by performing as attorneys and witnesses in simulated criminal and civil cases.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Ethics\/bioethics bowl:<\/strong> Teams of up to six students analyze real-world cases centered on contemporary ethical dilemmas, building arguments grounded in philosophical frameworks.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Policy debate:<\/strong> Students develop arguments around a yearlong legal, domestic, or international policy resolution.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Moot court:<\/strong> Students simulate Supreme Court-style proceedings by presenting appellate oral arguments on a yearlong case problem.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Model United Nations:<\/strong> A team of twelve students represents a country\u2019s interests in diplomacy, negotiation, and policymaking at a national Model UN conference each spring.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Your authentic voice is your power<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Li Guan \u201915 is a climate and environment manager for the fashion company SHEIN.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"276\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forenscis_Guan-276x300.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Li Guan '15\" class=\"wp-image-27917\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forenscis_Guan-276x300.jpg 276w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forenscis_Guan.jpg 552w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 276px) 100vw, 276px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Shanghai native Li Guan joined the mock trial team as a first-year student and was proud of the rapid improvements she had made in her public speaking skills since she\u2019d arrived at Macalester.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For some, that hard work wasn\u2019t enough.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Guan remembers one early tournament when an older judge stopped her and said, \u201cYour English is good\u2014for a foreigner.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The offhand comment stunned her. But it became a catalyst. \u201cI made up my mind: I wanted to perform as well as any native speaker. I would invest the time to get better,\u201d she says.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">She did. With intense focus, she huddled with teammates to hash out case theories, write out direct and cross-examinations, and practice relentlessly. She spent long bus rides to tournaments as far away as Cincinnati finding ways to improve, and analyzing every success and failure on the return home.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn\u2019t long before she shifted her focus from polishing her English skills to developing a voice that would set her apart. \u201cAt first, I would observe and copy the styles and tones of the juniors and seniors who were experienced in presenting themselves in a sophisticated way,\u201d she says. \u201cLater on, I found a style and tone\u2014a little bit sassy\u2014that fit who I was.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Her efforts paid off. She was an integral member of Macalester\u2019s mock trial team that advanced to nationals three times over the course of her four years as a student. And she landed All-American honors as a witness in 2015.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Today, Guan, who lives in Guangzhou, contributes to projects for the fashion retailer SHEIN that support the company\u2019s efforts to manage its environmental impact responsibly and transparently. \u201cA lot of my job is to persuade the leadership and cross-functional teams that the company must run sustainably to succeed,\u201d she says. \u201cSo the skills I learned in forensics, like effective communication, public speaking, and even putting yourself in someone else\u2019s shoes, continue to be beneficial to me.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Preparation drives top performance under pressure<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Andrew Gordon \u201905 is a district court judge in Ramsey County, Minnesota\u2019s Second Judicial District.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"222\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forensics_Gordon-222x300.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Andrew Gordon '05\" class=\"wp-image-27919\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forensics_Gordon-222x300.jpg 222w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/Forensics_Gordon.jpg 443w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 222px) 100vw, 222px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">As a student, Andrew Gordon says he sometimes got a knot in the pit of his stomach before mock trial competitions. \u201cIt was a little bit of self-doubt,\u201d he says. \u201cI was thinking: Can I do this? Am I the right person to do it? Am I going to win this case? That feeling was what made me put in the work to answer all those questions in the affirmative\u2014even if I didn\u2019t end up winning.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The pressure felt particularly acute because Gordon had grown up in Jamaica. While he had participated in parliamentary debate as a high school student, he hadn\u2019t absorbed details and nuances of American law in the same way as many of his teammates.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But as Gordon looks back on those sometimes nerve-wracking experiences two decades later, he knows they have benefited him in his current role as a district court judge. \u201cI learned to express an opinion not just in front of an audience, but in front of an audience where you expect to be challenged,\u201d he says. \u201cBeing a judge is not like a political rally where everyone who\u2019s there will agree with you. You know that someone in that room disagrees with you, maybe vehemently. You\u2019re trying to figure out what\u2019s going on, and you develop the presence of mind to be in that moment.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Gordon adds that this capacity for composure and clarity has been essential in his work. \u201cOften, the stakes are high. Someone\u2019s liberty is at stake. Money is on the line. There may be constitutional issues. The skills you learn in debate are skills that have value in the real world.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Collaboration helps people achieve at the highest levels<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Toby Heytens \u201997 is a judge for the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"197\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Heytens2-300x197.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Toby Heytens '97\" class=\"wp-image-27921\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Heytens2-300x197.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Heytens2.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Toby Heytens is the first to admit that his 18-year-old self was \u201cextremely competitive.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">That\u2019s what attracted him to Macalester\u2019s forensics team in the first place. With high-stakes tournaments and clear winners and losers, mock trial seemed all but engineered for him.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But it was also an intensive education in collaboration and communication. \u201cA mock trial team has to have at least six people on it, and no single person can earn more than 30 of the 140 possible points,\u201d he says. \u201cIt\u2019s literally impossible to win alone, even if you\u2019re the greatest mock trial competitor in the history of the world.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">That structure led him and his teammates\u2014fierce competitors in their own right\u2014to pursue a more cooperative approach.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">If a case needed an overhaul, for example, it meant they couldn\u2019t rely on ego or individual brilliance to carry them through\u2014they had to trust one another\u2019s judgment, stay aligned on goals, and commit to rebuilding it together.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The cooperative strategy was successful: Heytens was part of a team during his junior year that went undefeated at nationals.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nearly thirty years after graduating, Heytens considers the lessons he learned about building effective teams to be some of the most important of his life. \u201cTo achieve competitive success, you have to care about and work well with each other,\u201d he says.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Finding \u201cyour people\u201d is life-changing<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Molly McGinnis Stine \u201987 was a two-time Cross Examination Debate Association national champion; today, she is a lawyer at Troutman Pepper Locke in Chicago.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_stine2-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Molly McGinnis Stine '87\" class=\"wp-image-27927\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_stine2-300x300.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_stine2-150x150.jpg 150w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_stine2.jpg 599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cWhat did I get from Macalester forensics? The ability to think critically, the ability to research, the ability to see things from more than one point of view, and the ability to listen. It helped me develop my voice and my willingness to speak out. I learned to build consensus and I learned how to push back in a productive way.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But also, as is true of any group endeavor, these people became my people. We were in those tin cans of vans for all those hours on dark highways. We were staying in budget motels, and we were trying to figure out how to stretch our daily food allowance. I became friends with them, and I\u2019ve stayed friends with them.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Strong minds can change<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dick Lesicko \u201975 led Macalester\u2019s forensics program from 1984 to 2021.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Lesicko-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Dick Lesicko '75\" class=\"wp-image-27925\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Lesicko-300x300.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Lesicko-150x150.jpg 150w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Lesicko.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">After competing successfully in Macalester\u2019s forensics program as a student\u2014including a top-sixteen performance at the National Debate Tournament as a senior\u2014Dick Lesicko \u201975 couldn\u2019t wait to return to Macalester as a coach.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It wasn\u2019t just that he felt he could have an impact with the raw talent that Macalester attracted. It was also that he\u2019d be helping students develop skills and habits that they\u2019d lean on for the rest of their lives\u2014including the often-undervalued skill of changing their minds. \u201cWhen you\u2019ve had to argue both sides of a proposition, I think it makes you a little less dogmatic and a little more willing to compromise,\u201d he says. \u201cSometimes, you realize that you\u2019re wrong\u2014and when you\u2019re testing your ideas, it\u2019s okay to admit that you\u2019ve changed your mind.\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Lesicko says that this is a useful skill within the context of forensics, and even more powerful beyond it. \u201cIn life, you can\u2019t have a real interaction with someone unless [you\u2019re open to] the possibility that they can change your mind, and you\u2019ll be the better for it,\u201d he says. \u201cThat\u2019s hard work, but it\u2019s also a sign of real emotional maturity.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">There\u2019s a great big world beyond Macalester to discover<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Beau Larsen has been director of forensics since 2021.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Larsen2-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration of Beau Larsen\" class=\"wp-image-27923\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Larsen2-300x300.jpg 300w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Larsen2-150x150.jpg 150w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/forensics_Larsen2.jpg 599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Students often joke about the \u201cMacalester bubble\u201d\u2014the sense that campus can feel like its own world and culture.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">But Beau Larsen says that for forensics students, the whole point is to go beyond that bubble, both literally and figuratively. National tournaments bring together dozens of the top teams from across the country.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cStudents can test ideas with students from other colleges and universities, which is something they can\u2019t get through traditional classes,\u201d Larsen says. \u201cThis is my favorite part of the job: traveling with students so they can immerse themselves into the transformative power of forensics competition.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Macalester Lands National Championship in Ethics Bowl<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"418\" src=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/EthicsBowlChamps-1.jpg\" alt=\"Six Macalester Ethics Bowl team members hold a trophy\" class=\"wp-image-27933\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/EthicsBowlChamps-1.jpg 600w,  https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/653\/2025\/08\/EthicsBowlChamps-1-300x209.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In February, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/160-news\/2025\/03\/ethics-bowl-team-wins-2025-national-championship\/\">Macalester won the 2025 Ethics Bowl National Championship<\/a>, besting thirty-five teams from around the country. The victory, a nailbiter against Stanford decided by a single ballot point, tackled everything from policies on space weaponry to term lengths for federal judges.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">It marked the second time in four years that the team had won the national championship. Sihaam Barre \u201928,&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Madeleine Heafey \u201928, Colette Lawler \u201927, Vin Leang \u201927, R\u016bta Rupeikyte \u201927, and Eva Sturm \u201926 were led by Coach Casey Moerer \u201923.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Erin Peterson is a Minneapolis-based writer.<\/span><\/i><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Forensics students at Mac excel in competitive argumentation\u2014and thrive in an environment of shared values.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":875,"featured_media":27911,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[45,7],"tags":[647],"class_list":["post-27871","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-alumni","category-student-life","tag-forensics","mediatype-articles"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"fields":{"article_type":[8],"flickr_photoset_id":"","youtube_id":"","square_thumbnail":false,"press_photos":false,"story_title":"","story_caption":"","rotations":false,"maps":false,"marker_title":"","marker_text":"","geographic_location":false,"feature_embed":"","custom_link_url":"","news_icon_name":"","image_options":false,"main_feature_story":"","custom_image":false,"custom_feature_title":"","custom_feature_caption":"","custom_markup":"","custom_markup_link":"","custom_markup_title":"","custom_markup_caption":"","byline":"","post_thumbnail_style":"default","press_downloads":false},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27871","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/875"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27871"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27871\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29273,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27871\/revisions\/29273"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/27911"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27871"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27871"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.macalester.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27871"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}